Rejected for Speaking English?

I don’t even know where to begin to comment on this one…

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  1. mike lovell says:

    Well since you don’t know where to begin, let me provide my feeble attempt.

    Um, IDIOTS!!! Over here…..yeah you morons…..it’s America, we predominantly speak English over here…and to become a citizen of the U.S. you technically have to be somewhat proficient in speaking the native tongue….or is adhering to rules no longer politically correct?

  2. Lynda says:

    Not trying to say you have no right to be outraged, I was also when I listened to that……THEN I did a google search…….according to the ODF page:

    “There is no contract requirement that supervisors on contract crews speak any language other than English. There is a requirement that supervisors be able to communicate with the workers for whom they are responsible. This is essential to ensure that all personnel are made aware of safety hazards that can develop quickly in firefighting.

    Consequently, if private companies elect to hire crew members who do not speak English, those supervisors must be bilingual or multilingual.

    Public agencies have not found it necessary to require all frontline crew members to speak English. Bilingual supervision has proved successful in ensuring adequate crew safety and performance.

    Due to the nature of the work, English proficiency is required for direct employment by ODF.

    No ODF employees have been fired or demoted because of any language requirement; there is no requirement other than English proficiency for agency employees.”

    http://www.oregon.gov/ODF/FireCrewLanguageRequirement.shtml

    Also, this story is a couple of years old too. But I can find no other “reputable” source to confirm this clip.

    With so much disinformation out there these days, I tend to hold back on my reactions to stories now. The fear mongering is occurring at a rapid pace from all sides of the issues. I just don’t want to feed the fear anymore.

    Yeah, I know, I’m a real skeptic about everything these days……….sorry.

  3. Godfather says:

    WOW, thanks Lynda!

    I did some digging around and couldn’t find a top tier media to confirm either (although it did pass a couple tests of investigation).

    I don’t think anyone was fired and I think it was a bit blown up.

    It amazes me, real or inflated, the degree of which the potential occurs!

    Thanks again!

  4. danica says:

    my heart is split in two directions in this one. i live in south florida where the spanish population is quit large and plus my half sister is spanish so now half my family . although i have been around spanish speaking people my whole life i still haven’t been able to pick it up entirely. but yet when i encounter some one who dosen’t speak any english there are ways you can communicate with out speaking.
    plus i work at a mall that gets tons of turists from all around the globe and ive done a kinda of comprimise thing. i have learned just enough to know what to say to people and they have learned just enough to relay information back to me weather they are spanish or german or french. i think the firemen can do the same . if they just sit down and lay out some basic sayings that are critical for the job .

  5. Jay Burns says:

    Here is what I want to know. That if a fireman runs into my house and I tell him my son (fictional though he may be at this point) is still in the house, I don’t want him to look at me with a blank stare….. Que?

  6. Jim Nolan says:

    As the husband of a native Cuban who arrived in this country more than 40 years ago I feel more than qualified to comment.
    Hey firefighters…..Learn to speak our native language, just like my wife did. That is of course unless you plan to take over the country as the settlers did to the Indians, (ooooooppps- Native Americans) a couple hundred years ago.
    The greatest period of progress in our country occured when immigrants from all over the world arrived here and assimilated into the local culture. A world of ideas was drawn upon and combined in one “new world”. Today with all of the many cultures each trying to retain their identity we’ve become the Disjointed States. Think for a moment, if it really was so wonderful from where you came…why would you leave?

  7. mike lovell says:

    My sister is married to a Cuban, and lives in FLorida….his Grandparents came over on the last trip allowed out of Cuba during Castro’s takeover days. while his parents don’t speak massive amounts of english they speak enough to get by, but pretty much rammed it down the throats of their two boys (my bro-in-law and his brother) that they speak and learn in spanish, but they must be fleunt in English

  8. Lynda says:

    I look at this way…………If I were to emigrate to another country to live, work, own a car/house/business, I would be required to have a fairly decent grasp of that country’s language. I fail to see why it is considered “racist” to have the same requirement, that was basically already in place though unwritten, here.

    At the same time, this country is rather lax, if not just downright arrogant, in not teaching a 2nd language starting in grammar school. In many country’s English is a required 2nd language for those students.

    So, while I feel we should make more of an effort to have a 2nd language (though Spanish is the predominant one I think, any 2nd language would be ideal); I also feel those who immigrate here, should also have at least a working knowledge of English in order to work/own – even get a driver’s license.

    Do other countries provide translators and multiple language signs, etc?

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